This sort of post is perfect for the Aware or Conspiracy Nut category here at ChrisMerriman.com. Each of the following actually occurred, and are well documented. However, if your friend just bought up the topic without any sort of background info, you’d probably write them off as another internet conspiracy nutter. My thanks to Cracked.com for the original post this information is taken from.
Military coup followed by a fascist dictator installed as a president… in America! OK, so this didn’t actually take place, but back in 1933, the big bosses at General Motors, DuPont, Chase Bank and a certain Senator Prescott Bush (now whatever happened to that lineage 😉 ) allegedly were involved in planning this plot, though all those named denied it at the time. They weren’t averse to maintaining links with the Nazi powers in Germany even after America entered Word War II…
State sponsored scheme to keep citizens ignorant of their medical situation, for research purposes. Again, something like this is easily written off as just another flight of fancy from tin-foil hat wearers, but this one occurred in America. The government decided that action need to be taken to combat the spread of Syphilis, and so took unwitting volunteers, mostly illiterate black men, and carried out experiments. Those that already had syphilis were used in further experiments, not informed of their condition, and often put through unnecessary and painful procedures. For a further forty years, the patients were denied access to what had, by that time, become standard treatment regimes.
The Church of Scientology & MK Ultra. You could (and people have) dedicate entire web sites to this group’s beliefs and the (entirely separate) US experiments. Go and google if you’d like to discover what are hiding in volcanoes, and just why some people do wear tin-foil hats.
January 15th, 2010 4:42 am
Hey,i was wondering if you have been through Tamir Tau or near the Shiderty prison/labor colony they have over there….I here there is a lot of political prisoners in that place. Your not far from there are you?…That whole area around Tamir Tau is controlled by a London based company Mittal Steel…atleast thats where they have their headquarters….After buying a huge steel plant there…they had to buy up all utilities in order to keep the plant functional and then ended up providing service thousands in the local area……There is a conspiracy surrounding that place….or atleast it ends there…..let me find you some links to read
this guy is dead i think but he is a good writer
http://www.rense.com/general40/prisoner.htm by Alan Stang
here is an a couple of paragraphs
from some eye witness reports
1. Walter O’Reilly, President of Forget Me Not, the umbrella organization for various POW/MIA groups, the organization popularly associated with yellow flower distribution, reports that while on official business in the new Russian Federation, he was accosted at the steps of the former Lubyanka Central KGB prison by two men who surreptitiously said to him “We have your congressman.” O’Reilly’s response was a startled, “No, you don’t,” as he walked quickly away. He then realized that they must have meant Congressman Larry McDonald, who had been a passenger on KAL 007. He quickly returned to the steps but the men were gone.
2. A Christian minister in Long Island, New York, reports that while visiting Russia he had contact with a Russian pastor who claimed that he had been imprisoned for his faith with a group of people whom he believed were the American contingent from KAL 007. They had arrived at the prison the same week as the shootdown. Initially clothed in Western civilian attire, they presently donned the normal prison uniform. This Russian pastor now lives on the west coast of the United States and still has contact with the Christian minister in Long Island, but refuses to say anything further about the matter fearing for the safety of his relatives in Russia and for his own safety in the United States. Certain individuals have circulated among the Russian émigrés in his area warning them with threats lest any of them speak about their prison experiences. The Russian pastor agreed to speak with me through a “voice disguiser” but then changed his mind.
3. And then there is the strange and chilling tale of former Russian academician, David Stavitski, now residing in the United States. In an article published in Aleph, the Russian language US/Israeli publication, Stavitski recounts that just three months after the shootdown of KAL 007, while in the process of preparing for a conference of college teachers in the field of the effects of psychotropic drugs during combat, he had recourse to discussion with a medical colonel named Kodumov. Their discussion led to the use of parapsychology in altering perception. Kodumov informed Stavitski of a program begun at Serbsky Institute near Moscow, which was later adapted at the Sverdlovsk Institute for an experimental program called “Adnure” (see note 1 below). Adnure was a program in which captured foreign national subjects were conditioned out of operating from their identities in order to become pliable agents of espionage to be returned to their home countries, responding in all ways as, for example, Americans, but faithful and obedient suppliers to their Soviet “handlers” (see note 2 below). Kodumov informed Stavitski that he thought the KAL 007 passengers would be used for the Adnure program. What is startling is not that the KAL 007 passengers had been definitely placed at the Adnure project facility, but that a medical colonel associated with a scientific institute of the Soviet Union could suggest the real possibility of captured passengers of KAL 007 being found in such a horrendous program.
another wesite dedicated to this
http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Who%20Killed%20Larry%20McDonald.html
hope you like reading it…it interesting even if it may not be true
January 17th, 2010 7:03 pm
Interesting reading, thank you. I hadn’t come across this topic before, and ended up spending a fair amount of time reading around it and related subjects. A couple of things jumped out from the two links you mentioned – in the first, mentioning the Lord within the first paragraph will (sadly) put a lot of people off reading much further, or possibly cause less trust to be put in the author. Next is his accusations of communist leanings to anyone or any organization that does not behave as desired. This seems to be a mostly American preserve, though a few rabid right wing old school politicians in the UK will still talk like that if they don’t realise a tape is rolling. Finally, the idea that communism didn’t collapse in the CCCP/USSR is laughable, even more so that Kazakhstan remains a communist state.
The second link seems to often ignore the possibility of different factions with certain state’s governing bodies having different agendas, and seems to rely on country X = bad, department Y = honourable.
Hmm, I can’t find it now (it may have been on a related link instead?) but one page reported that when someone went to Russia/Kazakhstan, they were told by local goons that “we have your senator” or words to that effect. When he returned to the scene, they had disappeared. This just seems to unlikely – if you’re holding someone secretly, the likelihood you’d announce this fact in a public place seems pretty remote.
Most definitely interesting reading, none the less. Thanks 🙂
January 17th, 2010 7:52 pm
I think the area you mentioned might be Temirta? ? If so, it is near Karaganda, so not too far (~100 miles??) from us here in Astana. Re. the political prisoners, no idea, I tend not to get too heavily interested in the politics over here, as I need permission to live here. In Britain, I’d feel comfortable enough to look into things and post about them, over here, I have a wife and young daughter to consider as well. Some blogs delve a lot deeper, but they tend to be a little more anonymous than ChrisMerriman.com 🙂
Ah, just re-read your comment, that was where the “we have your congressman” came from 🙂