Taraz Under Siege
I haven’t heard anything about this through the grapevine, but I’ve seen a couple of items here and there. It seems like Taraz has some serious problems with criminal gangs of youth. NewEurasia.net posts a little about how the gangs work and even the local officials have had to admit defeat [RUS].
One wonders if the problem is indeed serious, or if this is a bit of panic on the part of older people and the media, especially with that silly photo on the Express.KZ piece. Anyone have any first-hand information on this?\
my wife and i collectively lived in taraz from december 2009 through november 2010. the place definitely had a bad reputation in kazakhstan as a whole. whenever we spoke with kazakhs from other parts of the country they clearly thought that taraz was a dangerous place to be and would warn us to be careful or suggest we move somewhere else.
and yet, i felt completely safe there. i did know one foreigner who was the victim of an attempted mugging (someone saw her with an iphone (smart phones are extremely rare in a down-and-out place live taraz), pushed her down and tried to grab the phone. she held on to the phone and the perp ran away). but that was it among the people we knew.
the locals in taraz were a little defensive about their town’s reputation. one told me that shymkent, not taraz, was the “crime capital of kazakhstan”. another claimed that taraz’s reputation was the product of anti-kazakh racism from the mostly russian or russified kazakh north. it is true that southern kazakhstan was more “kazakh” in the sense of the ethnic makeup of the place and the prevalence of the kazakh language instead of russian on the street. one of the ex-pats i knew who had lived in taraz for 8 years told me that the city’s bad reputation came from a few grizzly murders from a few years ago. the murders were related to organized crime (i.e. it wasn’t random violence, like the kind that we might have been the victim of) but it made national news because the facts of the killing were so gruesome. (i never really got the details tho)
meanwhile, almost all the locals in taraz agreed that the dangerous areas were all in the microregions (the high-rise developments along the periphery of the city, which seemed to be like housing projects), not the city center where we were living.
our translator, who lived her entire life in taraz, was pretty blasé about the alleged dangers. on a regular basis, she told us to be careful , but didn’t seem to think there was a problem for her (a 19 year old woman) to walk around alone at night in badly lit areas. the one time she referred to violent crime was when we were walking in the city center and there was a big red stain on the sidewalk. “is that blood?” i asked. “i told you it is dangerous in taraz” she said with a big smile. i wasn’t sure if she was serious or if she was making fun of me for assuming it was blood.
Thanks. That’s interesting. The stories I see in the news articles are kind of generic and cite that people are scared but don’t talk about any concrete incidents, so I wondered.
The blood could have been horse or sheep blood. People do slaughter them outside their homes.
the alleged blood stain was on a sidewalk in a park (for michael’s benefit: i don’t remember the name of the park, but it was that “lover’s park” that is across the street from the georgian restaurant “sarkatvelo”). if i remember correctly, that happened around mid-november, which is around when kurban ait fell in 2010. so maybe that’s what it was.
I’ve lived in Taraz since May 2009, and I would agree with the first commenter. A lot of people here do say that Taraz is the most criminal city in Taraz. However, they seem to say it with a sense of pride. I always ask for statistics, but I never get any. Other people will tell me that Shymkent is more dangerous. Either way, I’ve never had a safety problem here, nor have any of my American friends. We do live in the center though, which everyone agrees is safe. As long as we stay out of the microregions at night, we should be fine. People do say there are gangs there, but I have never encountered them. I do usually stay out of these areas at night though.
I can’t load the Express site, but I have heard similar things to the school bullying story in the blog post. We have talked about it in my English clubs before. At least last year, people were telling me that older students would demand payment from the younger ones, and it seemed to be done on an organized basis. The students were intimidated to tell anyone, and it was a problem. I don’t remember where I heard it from, but I remember hearing the situation has been improving.
From reading local papers about once a week and talking with friends, I don’t have a large sense of an immediate gang problem that needs to be addressed.
Hey, I am from Taraz and there is no any criminal. Its just a dream of some people. We are kind.
Good to know. I wish my Kazakh was better so I could read your blog. It looks interesting.